Tawra’s Debt Reduction Story, Part 2 – "The Rest of the Story"
(written in 2005)
Most people know our story about paying off $20,000 in 5 years on an average $22,000 annual income. If you haven’t read it, read it here.
Since then we have had more debt and paid it off/are still paying it off. Here is the rest of our story: When we lived in Idaho, Mike ended up working a job 100 miles from home. Because his new job was so far from home, we decided to sell our house intending to move closer to his job. We had the house on the market for 3 1/2 years while living in Idaho (from September 1996-January 2000). Mike got laid off from his job in October 1999. In December 1999, despite the layoff, we paid off our debt, the last of the original $20,000 .
Mike looked for a job until April 2000. He couldn’t find one in the area and we couldn’t sell our house. We finally decided to leave the Pacific Northwest and move to Manhattan, Kansas to be closer to my brother. He and his family lived 2 ½ hours away in Wichita and needed help remodeling their home. We had to leave the house in Idaho vacant and hope that it would sell eventually. (Mom was still living in Idaho and she was also trying to sell her house to move back to the Midwest.) Until it sold we had to pay $400 a month for the house, even though we didn’t live in it.
The rental market was not good in the small Idaho town and renting the house would not have come close to paying the mortgage and expenses. We paid for our moving expenses from Idaho which came to $2,500 and included deposits for our rental house in Kansas and other related expenses.
At that time, we had two kids, one and two years old. For a while, we were stuck with two house payments: $400 per month for our house in Idaho and $500 monthly rent in Kansas. Mike worked a job making $9.00 an hour so, of the $1500 we earned each month, almost three quarters went to making house payments. We had $600 left for everything else.
Mike’s county government job didn’t have health insurance benefits. We did get some WIC for 9 months and put the kids on state medical for a few months but we didn’t get any other assistance. Our house finally sold in 2000. We sold it for $12,000 less than we paid for it because we realized that it would probably cost less to take the loss at that time than to keep paying the mortgage and getting further into debt. We had to write a check to the buyers for $8,000. To say it made us sick to our stomachs is an understatement!
When mom sold her house, she lost $25,000, so our loss wasn’t as bad as it could have been. We survived for a year on $1500 a month and then $1700 a month until Mike got a better paying job in April 2001 at a TV station in Wichita, Kansas. He was getting $28,000 per year then. We were praying very hard that we would be able to find a house to buy so we wouldn’t have to rent again.
The two rental houses that we had from April 2000-April 2001 were horrid, but with two house payments, we could not afford better. It was so incredibly stressful living in houses that the landlords didn’t want to maintain. Our family was also very sick much of that time. Not long before moving out of the first rental, we discovered mold growing around a pool of water in the crawl space under the house. In the second house, a six inch baseboard fell off the living room wall one day and the back side was covered edge to edge with black mold. God was so good. When Mike got his job in Wichita, we found a 1600 square foot two bedroom house in Wichita that had been recently remodeled. It was even the exact colors that I wanted on the outside!! It’s funny because God really does give us the desires of our hearts!
We didn’t have a down payment and we had $10,500 in debt so we had no clue how we were going to buy it. We soon found out that there was a new program that helped people get home loans for 0% down and roll closing costs into the loan, so we bought the house. We were so excited to have our own place again! Our moving expenses from Manhattan to Wichita were $1,000.
Over the next two years, we had several other large expenses that we couldn’t afford. Mike’s job was not working out well and he was frustrated that he wasn’t earning as much money as we needed. He wasn’t sure he wanted to stay in the video business anymore because the financial outlook for video producers in Kansas wasn’t great. He opted for career counseling which cost us $1,200. Our washing machine and refrigerator both died shortly after we bought the house. Total cost $1,000. Both of the cars needed major repair work in one year, which cost $2,500 more than we had.
When baby #3 was coming along, we bought another house with more bedrooms for about the same price. Almost immediately, the refrigerator died in it, costing us $900.00. We got all that paid off ($17,000) in August of 2003 and again had no debt except out mortgage.
Then in December 2003, one of our cars needed a repair that would have cost more than buying another car. We bought a used Taurus station wagon on Ebay for $6,000, financing it on a credit card at zero percent interest. After our 3rd child was born in 2003, we incurred major medical bills because he had food allergies that went undiagnosed for a year. We spent $3,000 while we were trying to figure out what was wrong with him. We also had to pay cash for all our prescriptions (Thank the Good Lord for Canadian drugs ;-) because our insurance didn’t have prescription coverage.We were paying about $300 a month cash for prescriptions. If it wasn’t for Canadian pharmacies, we would have had to pay over $800 for the drugs here!
We are currently working on getting the car and medical expenses paid off. We concluded that our problem hasn’t been overspending; it has been lack of income. There is a point where you can’t "cut back" any more and you just have to make more money. Our family has been "under – resourced” as one of our readers put it. We are working on that part so that we can include unexpected costs in the budget. So here is a summary of the rest of the story: $17,000 paid off between 2000-2003 $8,000-Loss on house sold in Idaho $1,200- Mike career counseling $2,500- Moving expenses to Manhattan, KS $1,000- More moving expenses to Wichita, KS $1,900- Washing machine and two refrigerators $2,500- Car Repairs We paid off this $17,000 on an average $28,000 income from 2000 to 2003. Gross Income 2000-2003
- 2000-$16,000
- 2001-$26,000
- 2002-$38,000
- 2003-$34,000
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Average 2000-2003 annual income: $28,500
We didn’t pay off the debt as fast the second time for several reasons: Our medical expenses did go up around $500-$1500 depending on the year. We also had the baby on special formula that cost over $200 a month for one year, because of his food allergies. When we moved from Idaho to Kansas our:
Utilities went from $75 to $200 – up $1500 a year
House payment went from $625 per month in Idaho to $800-$900 per month in Kansas – up $2100-$3300 a year, both because of a stronger house market in Kansas and because our family was larger in Kansas Food went from $125 to $250 – up $1500 a year We also have purchased more convenience items than during the first big debt payoff because I have been sicker than usual for the last several years. We didn’t buy a lot of convenience stuff, but we did buy more $5 dinner take out from the grocery store and a few things for the house to “make life easier”. These costs did not add to the debt, but they did make the debt payoff take longer than before.
Our debt as of Summer 2005: This is what we still have to pay off: $6,000- Most recent car replacement $3,000-Extra medical bills (June 03-Jan. 05) By the way, in case you’re wondering why we haven’t received much income from the book business, it is largely because I am only able to work a few hours a week on it because I am chronically ill and, unfortunately, books don’t sell themselves. We are making changes to the publishing business and hopefully we will be able to make more income from it. Anyway, that is the rest of the story. Tawra
Update 2010- at this point we are completely out of debt except our house, which we are working to rapidly pay off in 3-5 years. Mike is currently working full time for Living On A Dime. It is doing better, but he still works 2 other part-time jobs to bring more income. Tawra
From: Dig Out Of Debt
photo by: Alan Cleaver
Janice Bennett
HEY, THANKS FOR SHARING ALL THIS WITH US , YOU ALL ARE A BLESSING TO ME . I REALLY ENJOYED READING ALL YOU POST, BUT ESPECIALLY , ABOUT HOW TO GET OUT OF DEBT. JAN
Heather Harmon
I appreciate this information! My husband and I are in the process of trying to become debt free and many of the same strategies are VERY relevant today. If you truly want to become debt free, you will make it happen. We have transferred 2 credit cards onto one low interest credit card – interest is only low for 12 months. After that, it will increase. Therefore, we are making sizeable payments on it to get rid of it in the 12 mo period. We will then transfer the other two onto this card and pay those off in 12 mo’s. For those who say they can’t afford to do this, my husband lost his job a couple of years ago and now makes half what he used to make. We are still finding ways to reduce our debt and spending to pay off bills. We hope to be debt free minus the house and my student loan in two years. We will work on those after that!!! Good luck to everyone trying to get rid of debt!
Dee
Tawra, reading your articles gives me inspiration & hope. In February 2014 I paid cash for a 2008 Toyota Corolla in excellent condition for $6500. In April, I was hit by a driver who had no drivers license & no insurance. I had to pay $500 for my deductible. I didn’t know until the accident that I didn’t have the correct rental coverage on my policy. I had to pay another $200 for rental fees while my car was being repaired.
When I purchased the policy, I didn’t realize it was far below the cost of renting a car. I wasn’t offered the other rental coverage that was $1 more a month & would have completely covered the cost of the rental! I was very upset to find out later that coverage was available & wasn’t offered to me.
In addition to that, I was so shaken from the accident. She made an illegal turn & T Boned my car & caused almost $5.000 in damages. If she hit me a few more inches towards the hood I most likely would have had very serious injuries. The agent at the rental place convinced me to purchase the extra insurance coverage on the rental car. When I realized I didn’t need it, I tried to cancel it, but they wouldn’t do it over the phone. Due to my work hours, I wasn’t able to get back to the rental company until a week later on Saturday. So I was charged another $95 for duplicate insurance I didn’t need.
I spent all my savings on the car, the accident was an additional $900 & I haven’t been able to get back on track & save anything since then. The bank closed my savings account because I didn’t have the minimum in there. I’m starting over again, paycheck to paycheck with no savings. I’m trying but it’s been so difficult to get back on track! Do you have any advice for me? How do I get back on track?
Tawra
I’m so sorry for all you’ve been through. We just had the same thing happen to us. The lady had insurance but our car was only worth $2500 and it was $7000 to replace it with something used for us so I totally understand what you are going through. The thing is you just have to start over….again. In the 20 years we’ve been married we had something major money wise happen about every 3-5 years. Kids in NICU, car crashes, losses from house sales. You have to remember to try not to dwell on it and just start back up again. One point remember is to try and always have $1,000 in savings all the time. If you need to get a 2nd job to get it saved up then do it. That is the one way we have been able to keep from sinking every time we have something major go wrong.
Rebecca
Does Mike have a college degree? I wonder if you ever him considered working steady job(s) that maybe weren’t the best, just to finance something like community college on a part-time basis if necessary. I see a lot of people who make little money, but it’s consistent and it gives them benefits, so they are able to get by. It almost seems like you guys had to suffer a lot because you couldn’t raise your income.
I feel for you with the kids and medical bills – it’s scary because you never know what could go wrong, especially when your family keeps growing. I am very thankful for my husband’s insurance.
Jill
Yes Mike does have a college degree and he worked a “regular” job (the University of Wash., PBS station here in Wichita and such) but even with all their benefits it didn’t always cover everything and he didn’t get paid near as much using his college degree as he has with our business which he didn’t start fully working at until about 5 yrs ago. About 80% of people do not have a degree in the field they went to school for but they do have a bunch of debt from it. Part of the problem they had was when they got married the had student debt of Mike’s and then the medical he had through the university where he worked didn’t cover the flight for life they had to use for when their daughter was born and things like that. Yes there is some security from a regular job but you really can’t always count on that. The same way we had medical from my husband’s job too and when our son was born because of fine print they covered nothing. My son and his wife had always had good jobs with medical and they have been swamped with medical bills.
Stacey
Wow, I’ve never read this entire story before. You guys really should share this story on a youtube video! And a 2018 update would be great. I know things have been a bit better for you finally, in the past couple of years. I’m really impressed with how hard you have worked to pay down your debts and just make life work for your family.